tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556126903764105050.post2491096355272586820..comments2024-03-02T15:12:47.341+00:00Comments on Colgar6 and the Infinite Legion of Toy Soldiers: The Graveyard kitColgar6http://www.blogger.com/profile/07636662295301222390noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556126903764105050.post-62887470291803291092014-08-25T06:29:32.833+01:002014-08-25T06:29:32.833+01:00Thanks. I'm looking forward to making progres...Thanks. I'm looking forward to making progress on this as well, but I'm not sure when I'll have time :-( .Colgar6https://www.blogger.com/profile/07636662295301222390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556126903764105050.post-66563550234603045612014-08-24T04:46:04.564+01:002014-08-24T04:46:04.564+01:00I fully sympathize with you on the "so many p...I fully sympathize with you on the "so many plans and ideas" front. I've got a to do list about 8pgs long. This looks like a great project! Looking forward to further progress reports?!Spiderweb of Historyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02139613680774779747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556126903764105050.post-46069128400616613462014-06-25T00:09:28.600+01:002014-06-25T00:09:28.600+01:00Oh yes!Oh yes!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11616664689882136444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556126903764105050.post-48320104560333309552014-06-24T19:31:54.602+01:002014-06-24T19:31:54.602+01:00Yes, but I've got to do something with it now,...Yes, but I've got to do something with it now, haven't I :-) ?Colgar6https://www.blogger.com/profile/07636662295301222390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556126903764105050.post-40490336275954317462014-06-24T14:37:31.758+01:002014-06-24T14:37:31.758+01:00Some great kit to kick off with dude.Some great kit to kick off with dude.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11616664689882136444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556126903764105050.post-70554818217011585662014-06-23T16:19:30.630+01:002014-06-23T16:19:30.630+01:00It just goes to show that most of us are thinking ...It just goes to show that most of us are thinking along the same lines!<br /><br />I think that you're right: undergrowth will be the key to a good appearance. This isn't something I've tried to model in the past, so it could go very wrong :-( .Colgar6https://www.blogger.com/profile/07636662295301222390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556126903764105050.post-46177421206070873782014-06-23T16:17:08.279+01:002014-06-23T16:17:08.279+01:00You're right: there could be a lodge house or ...You're right: there could be a lodge house or similar attached to the graveyard. Hmm, perhaps that's too ambitious?Colgar6https://www.blogger.com/profile/07636662295301222390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556126903764105050.post-40735499770613108932014-06-23T16:15:41.186+01:002014-06-23T16:15:41.186+01:00Thanks, that's pretty much what I plan to do: ...Thanks, that's pretty much what I plan to do: start with a few tiles and expand later.<br /><br />No, the ATZ hospital will be a regular district health centre with a few wards. I haven't thought much about it yet, other than to look at the Grekwood PDF hospital building.Colgar6https://www.blogger.com/profile/07636662295301222390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556126903764105050.post-28064708217157392152014-06-23T16:12:10.139+01:002014-06-23T16:12:10.139+01:00I'd certainly like to include some crypts and ...I'd certainly like to include some crypts and mausoleums at a later date, though I haven't got any such models at the moment. I hadn't thought of tunnels, though obviously any tomb that is large enough could potentially be an entrance to an underground system of some sort.Colgar6https://www.blogger.com/profile/07636662295301222390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556126903764105050.post-5919588754496906612014-06-23T16:10:21.687+01:002014-06-23T16:10:21.687+01:00Well, I do hope to have a small hill or some other...Well, I do hope to have a small hill or some other elevation changes! I think that my 3mm MDF is reasonably stable as a base material, so long as I don't create any tiles that are too large. So the "polystyrene covered in filler" method should work well enough, I think. Thanks, Joe.Colgar6https://www.blogger.com/profile/07636662295301222390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556126903764105050.post-27583698231339119182014-06-23T10:25:59.437+01:002014-06-23T10:25:59.437+01:00Ah, Colgar Colgar, I am repeating myself over and ...Ah, Colgar Colgar, I am repeating myself over and over again, but you are always one step ahead of me! I had a graveyard in mind for a very long time as well, and I, too, have Rendera grave stones stashed for "some day". <br /><br />I gave it a lot of thought and looked all over for an inspiration. I think what makes a graveyard spooky and horrifying are dark colours and that morbid, abandoned feel, so overgrown stuff works.<br /><br />Check this post on my blog:<br />http://mathyoo28mm.blogspot.com/search/label/Abney%20park<br /><br />and I might have some bad photos of an old jewish cemetery in Prague (or just google it) . Tombstones are really closely put together then (make sure some are broken or at least tilting to a side). <br />Because miniatures have huge bases, I think best effect would be produced if you'd put a lot of tombstones in clusters and avoid the temptation to give miniatures space to stand in between every row. It will look better and still be playable in my opinion. <br /><br />Symmetry is order and order is no good for horror imo. Make a rough ground with some smaller "hills" perhaps and certainly make an open grave pit! <br /><br />I'd suggest you mass produce "filler graves" if you will need many and put them in the back lines - I found cork works fine for those. <br /><br />And stick to it, I'm sure the end result will be fantastic!Mathyoohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11254075235438097742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556126903764105050.post-58581137969009575822014-06-23T08:39:45.078+01:002014-06-23T08:39:45.078+01:00It all starts with a good plan, and motivation. Se...It all starts with a good plan, and motivation. Seems a very ambitious program. Maybe starting with the smallest size you want first and keep it open for expansion.<br />Graveyard may have crypts and alley, as well as sometimes a house for the keeper (look at Dellamore, Dellamorte - or "Cemetery Man" for Graveyard and zombies)cedrichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09567465798644856588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556126903764105050.post-80530578048498429212014-06-22T22:51:33.115+01:002014-06-22T22:51:33.115+01:00This should look grand when you are done. The fen...This should look grand when you are done. The fencing alone will really help sell the idea of a graveyard. I agree with Bryan, plan it out, but make progress - even a little, and you'll get it done. Maybe start with a 'basic' small cemetery (3-4 tiles?) that you can expand on. <br /><br />So is this the Hospital for ATZ? I mean, that would be a graveyard in the zombie apocalypse... :)Nobody667https://www.blogger.com/profile/12619766374150489698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556126903764105050.post-34677628363932035462014-06-22T22:26:50.030+01:002014-06-22T22:26:50.030+01:00Well looking forward to seeing this take shape. Be...Well looking forward to seeing this take shape. Besides the regular size tombstones. Perhaps some larger crypts, angels etc etc would give it that Gothic theme as well. Or perhaps leading to some tunnels from one tile to another perhaps?Simon Quinton https://www.blogger.com/profile/18001946192905517180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556126903764105050.post-6782440543911477152014-06-22T20:49:31.373+01:002014-06-22T20:49:31.373+01:00I'd go for a split level cemetry, but as you s...I'd go for a split level cemetry, but as you say planning is easy, you do need to decide whether it'll initially be a cemetry and maybe later a graveyard (difference being whether or not a church is attached).<br />On large pieces of terrain I've gone with all manner of material but polystyrene (like ceiling tile stuff) is one of my favourties,. It makes smooth hills, rocky crags, cliffs and all manner of other goodness, when covered with generous layers of wall filler, the base need to be failry rigid for such an apporach though. <br />I'll be interested to see the progress of ths .<br />Eric the Shed has made a cemetry/graveyard for his immaculate church too I see.<br />Zabadakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05649765350412145174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556126903764105050.post-92065113970570277602014-06-22T20:45:13.298+01:002014-06-22T20:45:13.298+01:00Well I'll try not to let you down, Michael :-)...Well I'll try not to let you down, Michael :-) . It might take a while before you see any finished model, though.Colgar6https://www.blogger.com/profile/07636662295301222390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556126903764105050.post-11997791111970250622014-06-22T20:44:01.379+01:002014-06-22T20:44:01.379+01:00That's one of the things that sets us apart fr...That's one of the things that sets us apart from railway modellers! It has to be a compromise between toughness and appearance though, doesn't it?Colgar6https://www.blogger.com/profile/07636662295301222390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556126903764105050.post-17734270468974947362014-06-22T20:42:19.455+01:002014-06-22T20:42:19.455+01:00Thanks, Steve - there are some good links there! ...Thanks, Steve - there are some good links there! I think I've still got some old GW wraith models - they're the classic "Death" (hooded robes, bare skull and scythe), so they're very suitable for use as rather macabre statues. Not sure how I'd do the sentimental Victorian style of memorial, though :-) .Colgar6https://www.blogger.com/profile/07636662295301222390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556126903764105050.post-59528273557181021902014-06-22T20:34:13.352+01:002014-06-22T20:34:13.352+01:00I hadn't thought of a ruined church, though th...I hadn't thought of a ruined church, though that seems like a fairly obvious option now that you've mentioned it. You're probably right that iron railings would be Victorian or later, but I might just stretch a point on this. Hmm, a haunted kirk populated by witches and cultists? Can't help feeling that it's not an original idea, though it's still a good one :-) .Colgar6https://www.blogger.com/profile/07636662295301222390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556126903764105050.post-63485152346964842982014-06-22T20:31:09.510+01:002014-06-22T20:31:09.510+01:00To be honest, I'm more concerned about the imp...To be honest, I'm more concerned about the implementation than the planning! Trees or bushes are a good thought, though - they'd certainly help to break up the monotony. I don't have a mausoleum (yet!), but that can go on a future tile, if my plan for expandability works well. Thanks, Bryan.Colgar6https://www.blogger.com/profile/07636662295301222390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556126903764105050.post-76399350467751459392014-06-22T19:19:26.852+01:002014-06-22T19:19:26.852+01:00Already, I'm looking forward to this, I'd ...Already, I'm looking forward to this, I'd spied those railings over at Fenris myself so really interested to see how they work out.Michael Awdryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07049982879661559305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556126903764105050.post-16972835880041009482014-06-22T17:52:24.037+01:002014-06-22T17:52:24.037+01:00When it comes to modelling for wargames the best a...When it comes to modelling for wargames the best advice I can give is ROBUST, down right indestructible or something that you can drive a truck over. But remember don't sweat the small stuff.Clinthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02351729764098750618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556126903764105050.post-8633668074488599192014-06-22T17:49:18.259+01:002014-06-22T17:49:18.259+01:00Some references here: http://lisanneharris.com/201...Some references here: http://lisanneharris.com/2013/05/12/sadly-utterly-abandoned-churches-cemeteries/<br /><br />So many different reasons for the sites to be abandoned. Notice the distinct character of sites in UK, Eastern Europe and USA.<br /><br />Snow: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/a-weidinger/8264206911/<br /><br />And if the setting is victorian you've scope for some fairly imaginative memorials http://cemeteryexplorers.blogspot.co.uk/2009/12/gladys-spencer-music-hall-star-who-died.html<br /><br />SteveHolmes11https://www.blogger.com/profile/17392212343858957364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556126903764105050.post-68232787841535494832014-06-22T17:21:18.185+01:002014-06-22T17:21:18.185+01:00I think the art here will be to resolve the availa...I think the art here will be to resolve the available space (I guess 30 of fewer plots, typical of a tiny churchyard) with the setting. The Lych gate implies a churchyard - Perhaps an old one that has collapsed or been demolished (Cultists?).<br />The Iron railings remind me of post industrial - in the UK this tends to imply a large civic cemetery, though perhaps the abandoned graveyard was fenced off. Those superstitious villagers talk about ghosts, but we know there must be a rational explanation don't we?<br /> SteveHolmes11https://www.blogger.com/profile/17392212343858957364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2556126903764105050.post-13421114836550408392014-06-22T16:33:17.725+01:002014-06-22T16:33:17.725+01:00A graveyard set is a project that has been on my t...A graveyard set is a project that has been on my to do list for many years now. I now have enough gravestones, tombs and mausoleums to build a massive graveyard but I doubt if I'll ever make anything that big. Anyway, when tackling a project like this the best advice I can give is preparation and planning. Plan on what you're going to use and where everything goes. Will there be paths or roads or both? Will part of it be hilly? Will it have trees and/or bushes? Decide upon how many gravestones you need and where to place them. As you said you could leave part of the graveyard bare for future expansion. Mausoleums offer places to hide behind or in, if you make their roofs removable. There is no right or wrong way to making a graveyard. Just trust your instincts and do as much prep work and planning as you can before hand. I wish you the best of luck with this project.Vampifanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11318241813130102121noreply@blogger.com